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P's and F's and X's and E's (and T's)....

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P's and F's and X's and E's (and T's)....

From: (Letterboxr@aol.com) | Date: 2001-03-05 00:32:05 UTC-05:00
I'm trying to keep this all straight...
X is for eXchanged personal stamps,
E is for Event stamps...

And then Graham recently mentioned the UK notion of T for "Travelers". As I
understand this concept, some people may be carrying a stamp, BESIDES their
personal stamp, that is intended for sharing with the people they meet. This
makes sense to me, because I know some people that are not very keen on
sharing the "secret" design of their personal stamp.

So, in addition to P and F, there's X and E and T... and what else?

Seems to me that some of these could be consolidated. Aren't the X's and E's
and T's all just different types of personal eXchanges? Is there anything
wrong with lumping these statistics into one category? I would at LEAST
think the X's and T's could be combined. Any other opinions?

-- Der Mad Stamper

> > I know what P and F mean, but what does X mean? For example: P2F30X10
> > I didn't see this in the FAQ, nor in a basic search I did of this
> > message board.
> > Is this something informal? If not, perhaps it should be added to
> > the FAQ.
>
> Its in the FAQ (http://www.letterboxing.org/faq.html#025)
>
> From the FAQ:
>
> > Finally, some people have taken to listing other counts, such as
> > X (personal stamps eXchanged with others), and E (Event stamps
> > gathered at letterboxing gatherings).

Re: P's and F's and X's and E's (and T's)....

From: (defygravity@snet.net) | Date: 2001-03-05 06:29:44 UTC
I agree that X & T are basically the same. E, however, could be a
stamp made for the event, like an un-hidden box located at the site
of the gathering. Not exactly a found, and not identified with a
person...E would be a category of it's own. People with high E
numbers could be considered party animals. ;) Xs that happen at
gatherings I think should be the same as Xs met on the trail.

Just my interpretation, others?
~ Aili
(I have no problem sharing my personal stamp--it's kinda cool, and
I'm not modest. I rather doubt anyone would want to forge it though.)

--- In letterbox-usa@y..., Letterboxr@a... wrote:
> I'm trying to keep this all straight...
> X is for eXchanged personal stamps,
> E is for Event stamps...
>
> And then Graham recently mentioned the UK notion of T for
"Travelers". As I
> understand this concept, some people may be carrying a stamp,
BESIDES their
> personal stamp, that is intended for sharing with the people they
meet. This
> makes sense to me, because I know some people that are not very
keen on
> sharing the "secret" design of their personal stamp.
>
> So, in addition to P and F, there's X and E and T... and what else?
>
> Seems to me that some of these could be consolidated. Aren't the
X's and E's
> and T's all just different types of personal eXchanges? Is there
anything
> wrong with lumping these statistics into one category? I would at
LEAST
> think the X's and T's could be combined. Any other opinions?
>
> -- Der Mad Stamper



Re: [LbNA] P's and F's and X's and E's (and T's)....

From: Graham Howard (ghh2@tutor.open.ac.uk) | Date: 2001-03-05 07:43:18 UTC
Hi Mitch ...

I like your clear message about X, E and T

You were being sincere and sensible..I have to hold up my hand and admit
to a certain "Tinkerishness" in my mailing about other codes like B for
Buildings and P for Pubs and so on !... (though I do indeed keep such
counts)

Mmmm (thinks) ..It takes some effort to collect all the pubs on Dartmoor !
..but that's also a tinkersih thing to say So back to being
sensible ...

For most UK boxers the logic is about "e" for effort ! ..

The 100 club admits folk to its ranks (?) if letterboxers have collected,
unaided, 100 box stamp images "from the moor"...

....In order to get that hallowed 100 Club Patch...you have to have made
some effort...

So ONLY boxes found on the moors ...with "e" for effort are counted in
that 100...

It may be worth saying that our patches are colour coded...so are, in
effect, F count patches as well as club patches...

( In reality UK boxers only ever discuss their "F" count .. we don't
really consider anything else as important )

Any other counts ..."B"uildings .."P"ubs..."E"vents ( "M" Meet ) and even
e"X"changes (which I guess are the same as our "T"ravellers) ..DON'T
COUNT for qualifying to get your membership nor for that big round sought
after patch !

The idea that a "Traveller" ( a stamp that travels with the letterboxer)
should also be unique and not the same as your "personal" is just our
way...I agree with Der Mad Stamper about that ...mostly, because well I
started that way...and yes it would seem odd to me to use my "personal
stamp" in someone elses collectors book ..just a different idea that's
all... .. oh and it gets a nice extra set of different stamps too !

We have a separate catalogue of Travellers and folk like to collect them
fer sure ! but they aren't 100 club material !

Many boxes still hold to the rule that the Travellers are only exchanged
(one for one) on the moor !.. so some "e" for effort occurs for them
too...but it is becoming more common to exchange em at general meets too !

It seems to me that Xchanging personals is about the same then isn't it ?

Many boxers make their Traveller different each year !... but there is no
rule about that either !

The nice thing about the rules of letterboxing is that .. well that there
aren't any !

Those other rules about protecting the outdoor environment are always the
same, whether we are hiking, letterboxing or just plain having a picnic...

Wait !! ..Stop right there ! Now I think of it...don't we need a "PN"
count too, for boxes found whilst having a Picnic ?

(tinker, tinker, tinker )

Graham Howard
aka The Moorland Wizard
Exile from Dartmoor..in vigil!


letterbox-usa@yahoogroups.com writes:
>I'm trying to keep this all straight...
>X is for eXchanged personal stamps,
>E is for Event stamps...
>
>And then Graham recently mentioned the UK notion of T for "Travelers".
>As I
>understand this concept, some people may be carrying a stamp, BESIDES
>their
>personal stamp, that is intended for sharing with the people they meet.
>This
>makes sense to me, because I know some people that are not very keen on
>sharing the "secret" design of their personal stamp.
>
>So, in addition to P and F, there's X and E and T... and what else?
>
>Seems to me that some of these could be consolidated. Aren't the X's and
>E's
>and T's all just different types of personal eXchanges? Is there anything
>wrong with lumping these statistics into one category? I would at LEAST
>think the X's and T's could be combined. Any other opinions?
>
> -- Der Mad Stamper
>
>> > I know what P and F mean, but what does X mean? For example: P2F30X10
>> > I didn't see this in the FAQ, nor in a basic search I did of this
>> > message board.
>> > Is this something informal? If not, perhaps it should be added to
>> > the FAQ.
>>
>> Its in the FAQ (http://www.letterboxing.org/faq.html#025)
>>
>> From the FAQ:
>>
>> > Finally, some people have taken to listing other counts, such as
>> > X (personal stamps eXchanged with others), and E (Event stamps
>> > gathered at letterboxing gatherings).
>
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